Discuss the way between commercial mountain climbing and AA mountaineering

Some time ago in the discussion on Zhuo Youyou, I talked about how to solve the problems of folk mountaineering. Because the student team has many advantages in operation, it is difficult for the private team to have some objective conditions of the student team, such as funding. Solutions, training mechanisms, old and new gangs, and strict division of labor in mountaineering. I hope that everyone can come up with a better solution. The main answer is to pull sponsorship. This is a good solution, but it is almost impossible for most Shanyou. It is not only that China's mountaineering market is not yet mature. The problem is that even if someone is willing to sponsor, the sponsor needs to find a mature mountaineering team that can bring commercial returns instead of a temporary mob. The Sichuan Youth Team and the Shenzhen Team are two teams that can be individually sponsored. They have a direct relationship with the relative maturity of the team, the operational mechanism, and the regional economy. Later, because of the problem of going too far with Zhuo Youyou, there was no discussion.

Now I will talk about commercial climbing and AA climbing. In addition to the ability of the national team and the Tibetan team to organize commercial mountaineering, the civilian even commercial teams also hang a coat of AA because it is difficult to meet the standards of the commercial team in all aspects. Such as coaching strength, logistics support and so on. The high threshold of the commercial team has deterred the vast majority of people, with the exception of individual speculation and the unit’s money. Let's take a look at AA mountaineering. The level of team members is uneven. The temporary team must have no guarantee of training. The old and new gangs are extremely limited. The division of labor in mountaineering is ambiguous. Everyone wants to exercise techniques and peaks. The result is often counter-productive. However, no one is responsible for taking responsibility. Therefore, no one wants to be the captain. Everyone believes that they are not obligated to pay for the new recruits. It is characterized by its ability to rely on the team, and the cost is very low, such as a queer mountain from Chengdu counted only a thousand dollars. However, by doing so, one can confidently determine how many technologies it has mastered. Only those who have participated in the event are fully aware of it. I once suggested that it is best to participate in a commercial team or climbing festival for the first time. The initial experience is very important, and you don’t need to purchase a complete set of equipment yourself, so that when you find yourself unresponsive to Dengxue Mountain due to reaction, the purchased equipment can only be Half price processing.

Can you find a compromise solution? Lenovo's different practices in recent years, found that there is a way to solve the high cost of the commercial team, but also to solve the lack of AA team technical strength and division of labor is not Clear and so on. An example is: In May 2000, during May 1st, a team was formed on the north slope of Yuzhu Peak by the name of Bei Da Shan Mei. At that time, it was a team of more than 10 people. The coach or the responsible person was a stupid bamboo and was responsible for providing some equipment. Li Lan and other four people are responsible for all expenses from other people, spending about 2,000 yuan on each person. At the time, this team was not very successful, mainly because the real coach was only a stupid one at the time, and Li Lan and other four were not coaches. If all five people were then coaches, this team would be comprehensive in the division of labor. More than one person can't be stupid. The team’s gains and losses are not discussed here. I just want to talk about the form of this team. It is obviously different from the real AA system.

Then there is a new form of team: AA system and bear the cost of coaching. Its characteristics are:

First, freedom of choice. Including peaks of different difficulty, members of the team, the coaches requested, etc. Climbing festivals or commercial teams are organized by the organizers to choose a mountain peak, make a budget in case of profit, and if the number of applicants is too small to make a profit, it may be cancelled. However, this new form is just the opposite. It is often the case that several people are eager to go to a certain mountain and do not confuse others, and then choose the right coach to do both. However, it is best to consider the advice of the coach. However, it is also possible that some mountains that are not popular have the possibility of being considered.

Second, the cost problem. It can be very good to include the coaches of the boarding committee. This is a good reason to ask for a chartered car and a husband. As a new person (including those who have only been with a mountain once), it costs money to hire a coach. . Others such as equipment, food, registration (including insurance), transportation, backfighting, etc. are all AA by actual team members. There are two types of coaches. One is to cover only the entire (including part of) expenses, and the other is to require additional compensation for missed work or compensation. The latter are generally experienced coaches such as the boarding association. According to the international prevailing principle of One Belt or One Belt, the cost will still be much lower than that of the commercial team. If the cancelation of the itinerary due to the small number of commercial teams is easier to solve, some of them participated in the climbing festival without It is a good idea to confidently select teams to choose new peaks. Those who usually spend money to ask for coaches are those who really love to improve their skills. Even if they can't reach the top, they will try to learn more skills in a limited time, and they will not be able to withdraw to play.

Third, responsibility issues. Especially in terms of security, there is a certain requirement for coach qualifications. The former of the two coaches is the same as the other AA teams, but the coach’s opinion is preferred. The latter must bear some responsibility. On the one hand, it solves the problem that the old man does not want to bring new people. On the other hand, it also complies with the laws of the market, because you cannot ask the old man to have the obligation to teach new people, and he has the responsibility to teach new people when he can climb the mountain without spending money.

Fourth, with advantages. Since this kind of team is generally small, on the one hand, everyone does not want people on the team who don't understand. On the other hand, it is not easy to find several coaches at the same time. Both parties are willing to do so and may be drawn to the coaches. No time, or dissatisfaction with the composition of the players, and how much they paid. Once the coach agrees, there will be a convenient aspect in selecting the mountain and searching for information. The formalities for handling procedures will also have some factors. When selecting and purchasing equipment, some more reasonable opinions will be put forward, and some equipment can be borrowed or rented to reduce the number of equipment. Unnecessary expenditure will reduce waste in terms of equipment and food quantity due to its experience. Nowadays, the AA team has caused a lot of material waste due to its own inexperience, which can also reduce unnecessary expenditures for the cost of coaching. .

I want to talk about the differences between coaches, guides, collaborations, and backstabs. Coaches are the usual interpretations in Chinese, require comprehensive skills, and can convey to players the ability to give correct and reasonable explanations to players in different mountain conditions. Common hazards are dealt with in a timely manner and impart relevant experience to the players and so on. Wizards are generally people who lead the way in Chinese, and they are similar to coaches in the international community. Collaboration is divided between high and low mountains. It is generally local. Adaptation and physical strength are very good, but it is technically poor. At the time, Ozark’s students at Ningjin Anti-Sanding Cooperative were only cooperative and had certain skills but were not enough to take on the roads. teaching. Low mountain cooperation is actually a type of back-to-back husband. They are generally locals and only undertake tasks such as transportation or accidents.

As for the example of Ningjin’s anti-sanding at that time, the team was basically an AA system, and the personnel were numerous and miscellaneous. I was building roads with Chen Junchi and had no obligation or time to teach another group of new people. I found that there were only new people with poor foundation. Can decide not to take him to an area where the difficulty is not suitable. If it is a small team, it will be different. On the one hand, it will teach some basic common sense at a low place. The coach will open the way ahead. The team members will learn a lot if they follow. If there is a suitable place, the team members can also have practical opportunities. Many skills can only be mastered if they are skilled in the operation. This is very different from reading books and listening to coaches when they are many.

These are just some of my ideas, not necessarily perfect, and their operability has yet to be evaluated after practice. I know there aren't many teams that form this team, but the parties are not suggesting good or bad opinions. Maybe We want to avoid this topic. Some people take the lead in the business team. Because they have low fees, few people, and no profit at the end, they are practically similar to this method. They might as well be negotiated voluntarily by team members and coaches, and justify the formation of the AA plus coach.

Since the difficulty of mountain peaks and the convenience of transportation directly affect the cost of investment, it is best to choose a mountain in Tibet or Xinjiang to find a local coach. However, because of the language or teaching ability, it is also necessary from the mainland or China Association to find. The network has reduced the distance between the mountain friends and made it possible for mountain friends to connect easily. If there are experienced mountain friends in the region, it is normal for me to prepare and pay for them together. This is also a big step towards the healthy operation of Chinese folk mountaineering. Otherwise, everyone would like AA to follow the old people. Because of the relationship between power and obligations, no one has learned anything and it has hindered the pace of civil climbing. Some people say that China must adopt a commercialization model to develop mountaineering. This is not a semi-commercial approach. On the one hand, no one in the private sector has the ability to organize real commercial teams. Some small groups or clubs either do not have the ability or are unwilling to take responsibility. They are unwilling to take responsibility and are also related to the current high-risk and low-return. These factors hinder the development of private mountaineering. Relying on the mountain friends to solve their own understanding, this approach reduces the cost, but to take on their own high-risk unique to the mountain. Then again, the high-risk of commercial mountain climbing does not have to bear the same burden. It just feels like there is an argument.

In terms of funding, I know that many people now have money but can't find a suitable team. If we think that Muztagag is too expensive and so expensive, some people can find a unit or individual who has paid for it. They also suffer from the inability to self-organize. Then this group of people can manage to contact the individual associations and find some old people to contact them. In fact, many old coaches usually have nothing to do, such as Zou coach when the Guangzhou team went to Mashtag in 1999.
Welcome everyone to give their opinions or supplements


Copyright: bince Original submission time: 19:15:45 June 21

Imagine that the holiday is over. Several brothers are going to climb a mountain and choose a slightly challenging mountain. Based on the probability of success and security considerations, they have found a senior mountaineer who has climbed over the mountain and is known as Jojo and told him that we You are responsible for your travel expenses and accommodation. You are responsible for our safety and success. You can use this holiday to accompany us for a visit. Your mother's surname is...

What would you think of this senior?

1 For a coach who has the ability to bring people up the mountain, he personally receives a lower reward (or no) and a mountaineering experience that may not be meaningful to him (interests and challenges). Unless, the team members are very good friends or his interest is to bring people at a high level.

2 For the same mountain, the level of people who are interested in the same type of climbing will not be too far apart and will not be able to play the role of a coach.

Regarding the current domestic level, regardless of whether or not the experience is rich, a mountaineering activity is required. Regardless of the easy mountain, a precious vacation is also required. The money is not mentioned first. However, people with higher levels are undoubtedly not fanatical enthusiasts. They use limited time and money to explore new ways and improve their own standards. This is understandable. It should be so.

Not all members from the boarding associations, I can't think of the coaches of the private sector. Even coaches like this are unfair to themselves and this approach will not be sustainable.

Another kind of embarrassing and effective way is to want to learn mountaineering lovers at their own expense to participate in the mountaineering activities organized by the master and give up the idea of ​​the top, honest and honest when a low mountain cooperation, back husband. There is little experience when working in high mountains. Slowly go up. It's a pity that there are only so few pure lovers.

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